Itaque dicunt nec dubitant: mihi sic usus est, tibi ut opus est facto, fac. Hominum non spinas vellentium, ut Stoici, nec ossa nudantium, sed eorum, qui grandia ornate vellent, enucleate minora dicere. Quis est enim, in quo sit cupiditas, quin recte cupidus dici possit? Videsne quam sit magna dissensio?

Nemo nostrum istius generis asotos iucunde putat vivere. Bork Si autem id non concedatur, non continuo vita beata tollitur. Illa videamus, quae a te de amicitia dicta sunt. Itaque et manendi in vita et migrandi ratio omnis iis rebus, quas supra dixi, metienda. Quid enim de amicitia statueris utilitatis causa expetenda vides. Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Atqui reperies, inquit, in hoc quidem pertinacem;

Sed id ne cogitari quidem potest quale sit, ut non repugnet ipsum sibi. Hoc Hieronymus summum bonum esse dixit. Quid ergo aliud intellegetur nisi uti ne quae pars naturae neglegatur? Ego quoque, inquit, didicerim libentius si quid attuleris, quam te reprehenderim. Oculorum, inquit Plato, est in nobis sensus acerrimus, quibus sapientiam non cernimus.

Primum quid tu dicis breve? Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Invidiosum nomen est, infame, suspectum. Theophrastus mediocriterne delectat, cum tractat locos ab Aristotele ante tractatos? Septem autem illi non suo, sed populorum suffragio omnium nominati sunt. Scrupulum, inquam, abeunti; Paupertas si malum est, mendicus beatus esse nemo potest, quamvis sit sapiens.

Non quaero, quid dicat, sed quid convenienter possit rationi et sententiae suae dicere. At iam decimum annum in spelunca iacet. Propter nos enim illam, non propter eam nosmet ipsos diligimus. Illis videtur, qui illud non dubitant bonum dicere -; Bestiarum vero nullum iudicium puto. At modo dixeras nihil in istis rebus esse, quod interesset. Memini vero, inquam; Sit hoc ultimum bonorum, quod nunc a me defenditur;

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proverbia non nulla veriora sint quam vestra dogmata. Graece donan, Latine voluptatem vocant. Non igitur potestis voluptate omnia dirigentes aut tueri aut retinere virtutem. Quid de Platone aut de Democrito loquar? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Illis videtur, qui illud non dubitant bonum dicere -; Iubet igitur nos Pythius Apollo noscere nosmet ipsos. Piso, familiaris noster, et alia multa et hoc loco Stoicos irridebat: Quid enim?

De quibus cupio scire quid sentias. Nos quidem Virtutes sic natae sumus, ut tibi serviremus, aliud negotii nihil habemus. Vide igitur ne non debeas verbis nostris uti, sententiis tuis. Nunc omni virtuti vitium contrario nomine opponitur. Nam si amitti vita beata potest, beata esse non potest. Tum Piso: Atqui, Cicero, inquit, ista studia, si ad imitandos summos viros spectant, ingeniosorum sunt; Ratio enim nostra consentit, pugnat oratio.

Sed ad bona praeterita redeamus. Diodorus, eius auditor, adiungit ad honestatem vacuitatem doloris. An hoc usque quaque, aliter in vita? Quod autem satis est, eo quicquid accessit, nimium est; Paulum, cum regem Persem captum adduceret, eodem flumine invectio? Eadem fortitudinis ratio reperietur. Ergo hoc quidem apparet, nos ad agendum esse natos. At certe gravius.

At iam decimum annum in spelunca iacet. Negat esse eam, inquit, propter se expetendam. Omnia contraria, quos etiam insanos esse vultis.

Qua igitur re ab deo vincitur, si aeternitate non vincitur? Quamvis enim depravatae non sint, pravae tamen esse possunt. Eaedem enim utilitates poterunt eas labefactare atque pervertere. Huius ego nunc auctoritatem sequens idem faciam. Satis est ad hoc responsum. Cum autem in quo sapienter dicimus, id a primo rectissime dicitur.

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