Dicam, inquam, et quidem discendi causa magis, quam quo te aut Epicurum reprehensum velim. Homines optimi non intellegunt totam rationem everti, si ita res se habeat. Sit, inquam, tam facilis, quam vultis, comparatio voluptatis, quid de dolore dicemus? Conclusum est enim contra Cyrenaicos satis acute, nihil ad Epicurum. Quoniam, si dis placet, ab Epicuro loqui discimus. Nam si amitti vita beata potest, beata esse non potest.

Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius. Septem autem illi non suo, sed populorum suffragio omnium nominati sunt. Atque haec coniunctio confusioque virtutum tamen a philosophis ratione quadam distinguitur.

Haec quo modo conveniant, non sane intellego. Summum ením bonum exposuit vacuitatem doloris; Nec enim, dum metuit, iustus est, et certe, si metuere destiterit, non erit; Quia nec honesto quic quam honestius nec turpi turpius. Sextilio Rufo, cum is rem ad amicos ita deferret, se esse heredem Q. Ex ea difficultate illae fallaciloquae, ut ait Accius, malitiae natae sunt.

Quid turpius quam sapientis vitam ex insipientium sermone pendere? Quid enim me prohiberet Epicureum esse, si probarem, quae ille diceret? Itaque haec cum illis est dissensio, cum Peripateticis nulla sane. Deinde disputat, quod cuiusque generis animantium statui deceat extremum. Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Nam, ut paulo ante docui, augendae voluptatis finis est doloris omnis amotio. Sed videbimus. Sed erat aequius Triarium aliquid de dissensione nostra iudicare.

Plane idem, inquit, et maxima quidem, qua fieri nulla maior potest. Nam, ut sint illa vendibiliora, haec uberiora certe sunt. Praeteritis, inquit, gaudeo.

Haec quo modo conveniant, non sane intellego. Ita relinquet duas, de quibus etiam atque etiam consideret. Qui autem diffidet perpetuitati bonorum suorum, timeat necesse est, ne aliquando amissis illis sit miser. Mihi quidem Antiochum, quem audis, satis belle videris

attendere. Tum Triarius: Posthac quidem, inquit, audacius. Modo etiam paulum ad dexteram de via declinavi, ut ad Pericli sepulcrum accederem. Nondum autem explanatum satis, erat, quid maxime natura vellet. Sin dicit obscurari quaedam nec apparere, quia valde parva sint, nos quoque concedimus; Quid turpius quam sapientis vitam ex insipientium sermone pendere?

Bork Non quaeritur autem quid naturae tuae consentaneum sit, sed quid disciplinae. Primum cur ista res digna odio est, nisi quod est turpis? Non minor, inquit, voluptas percipitur ex vilissimis rebus quam ex pretiosissimis. Tecum optime, deinde etiam cum mediocri amico. Ut placet, inquit, etsi enim illud erat aptius, aequum cuique concedere.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. At quicum ioca seria, ut dicitur, quicum arcana, quicum occulta omnia? At ille non pertimuit saneque fidenter: Istis quidem ipsis verbis, inquit; Quo modo? Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet. Vitae autem degendae ratio maxime quidem illis placuit quieta. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Quid igitur dubitamus in tota eius natura quaerere quid sit effectum? Quasi ego id curem, quid ille aiat aut neget.

Sapiens autem semper beatus est et est aliquando in dolore; Incommoda autem et commoda-ita enim estmata et dustmata appello-communia esse voluerunt, paria noluerunt. Conferam tecum, quam cuique verso rem subicias; At ille pellit, qui permulcet sensum voluptate. Quamquam in hac divisione rem ipsam prorsus probo, elegantiam desidero. Itaque contra est, ac dicitis;

Atqui reperies, inquit, in hoc quidem pertinacem; Hoc loco tenere se Triarius non potuit. Negat enim summo bono afferre incrementum diem. Non est enim vitium in oratione solum, sed etiam in moribus. Quam si explicavisset, non tam haesitaret. Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate.

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